Rodney D Luffman


Sharing the Gospel of Jesus Christ to the ends of the Earth.

Once Saved Always Saved????

Are You Heaven Bound?

A Call to Preach is a Call to Prepare.

Within this Call to Preach is a command to "Study" the Holy Scriptures as one MUST know the Word in order to teach it. The Greatest Error ANY Teacher/Preacher/Pastor can have is convey a message that is traditional rather than STUDY out the Message in order to eliminate error from one’s own Message. My Dear Brethren, know this; You are personally responsible for any and all messages, doctrines and theological messages you deliver. STOP, learn what the Bible truly teaches before you accidently lead others into Hell by your lack of knowledge. Yes, I know that’s an arrogant statement, but I wish you to know the TRUTH of the Holy Scriptures and not have the "blood stained" hands that I’m very likely to have by preaching the traditional messages taught in today’s "traditional" churches. Yes, at one point I taught the same messages that are today taught by the major denominational churches, these doctrines are traditional and in most part not of the Holy Scripture. I have no doubt, I’ll lose part of my readers within the first pages of this document, but for those of you who wish to learn the truth, the truth will set you free.

A young man walks up to me after a service and explains to me, preacher I got saved years ago. I haven't lived for God in years. I've lived in sin feeling the conviction of God telling me to do right. Am I still a child of God? I mean I know I got saved, am I still saved?

Today I wish us to look at his questions. Lets look at where he stands with God. From Gods point of view. Not what we think and certainly not from where we've been taught.

 

John 14

Jesus Comforts His Disciples

1"Do not let your hearts be troubled. Trust in God; trust also in me. 2 In my Father's house are many rooms; if it were not so, I would have told you. I am going there to prepare a place for you. 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am. 4 You know the way to the place where I am going."

Of all the great sins within the church today is the mentality of the clergy in telling everyone that all is good and soon we're all going to be in Heaven. Telling the people of God, do your best and all will be ok.

Look at verses 1-3 seems in these verses that God is telling His people the same thing but look closely at vs. 4. You know the way, could it be that there is a great message in this thought alone? You know the way! Let us look closely at this. Be careful not to hold on the thought patterns of old. At this moment allow yourself to see God at face value and understand what the Spirit is telling you through the word.

Please allow me to add the verse that always comes up here:

Ephesians 4:30
And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, with whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.

Ephesians 4:30

Amplified Bible (AMP)

30And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God [do not offend or vex or sadden Him], by Whom you were sealed (marked, branded as God's own, secured) for the day of redemption (of final deliverance through Christ from evil and the consequences of sin).

 

Why is it that all we hear of this verse is the: "Holy Spirit of God, with whom you were sealed for the day of redemption." Most leave out the part of "Don't grieve". Ignoring the major danger in this fragment of the verse.

Allow yourself to see this verse as a follow up:

Isaiah 63:10
Yet they rebelled and grieved his Holy Spirit. So he turned and became their enemy and he himself fought against them.

"You know the way":

Ask your self these questions: What is the way?

What are the rules, if any that must I follow? 

Does my sin matter now that I'm saved?

Can I lose my salvation?

Can God forgive me again?

Am I really going to Heaven?

Lets deal with these not necessarily one at a time.

A. What is the way?

Word of Truth
Written by the Holy Spirit of the road paved by Jesus Christ

John 14
5 Thomas said to him, "Lord, we don't know where you are going, so how can we know the way?"
6 Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. 7 If you really knew me, you would know my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him."

Once saved always saved? B. What if any rules must I follow?

The old time way of teaching the gospel of Jesus Christ. Once saved always saved. Sounds good but can it be? Really to repent ask Jesus to save you and not to ever have to worry about sin again? Can I lose my salvation? What does the bible really teach?

Lets take a look, from the gospels.

Matthew 24 Using both the KJV and the NIV to avoid the depate.
13. but he who stands firm to the end will be saved.NIV
13. But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.KJV

24. For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. 25 Behold, I have told you before. KJV

You need not to listen to me, but listen to God. What does He say? Look in Matthew 24 vs. 13 stands firm to the end, "NIV" vs. 13 endure to the end. "KJV"
Understand I don't want to discourage you, I only want you to see the truth, one must stand firm in Jesus Christ unto the end.

Luke 8
5 A sower went out to sow his seed: and as he sowed, some fell by the way side; and it was trodden down, and the fowls of the air devoured it.
6 And some fell upon a rock; and as soon as it was sprung up, it withered away, because it lacked moisture.
7 And some fell among thorns; and the thorns sprang up with it, and choked it.
8 And other fell on good ground, and sprang up, and bare fruit an hundredfold. And when he had said these things, he cried, He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.

Luke 8
11 Now the parable is this: The seed is the word of God.
12 Those by the way side are they that hear; then cometh the devil, and taketh away the word out of their hearts, lest they should believe and be saved.
13 They on the rock are they, which, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no root, which for a while believe, and in time of temptation fall away.

Note: vs 13 receive the word = they were saved, the word receive is a reference to being saved!
In time of temptation fall away.

Note: Honestly, I get so upset with those who stand by the old Baptist teaching: "if they REALLY GOT SAVED?" There would have been a change, the Bible says, "they receive the word with joy" yet they fell away. Question is, if they died before they "fell away" were they not in the "joy of the Lord"? Of course they were, they simply didn't have the root system, they fell away. They fell away from their old ways, they simply fell from Grace.

14 And that which fell among thorns are they, which, when they have heard, go forth, and are choked with cares and riches and pleasures of this life, and bring no fruit to perfection.
15 But that on the good ground are they, which in an honest and good heart, having heard the word, keep it, and bring forth fruit with patience.

Listen to what God is saying here. Look at 14 they are choked with cares, riches and pleasures. This equals no fruit, later we can see what this gray area can bring. Hint "neither hot nor cold" not growing not working, not being what Jesus has commanded. Notice the intended reciepient of this message of vs. 14. Who are they other than those who sit on the church pews and proclaim they got saved ?? years ago, however their works say something all together different. Will they be in Heaven, you read the Scriptures and you be the judge of yourself.

Luke 12
45 But and if that servant say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; and shall begin to beat the menservants and maidens, and to eat and drink, and to be drunken;
46 The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers .

Symbolic of Hell!
Note: My lord (vs. 46), this is reference to him being a Christian, what happens to this believer?

He had his part with the unbelievers.

Luke 14

34 Salt is good: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be seasoned?
35 It is neither fit for the land, nor yet for the dunghill; but men cast it out. He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.

Note: WARNING he that hath ears to hear let him hear.
CAST IT OUT! What do you think this is a reference to? Again this is symbloic of Hell.

Let us look at History for a moment:

Seeing what the early church believed is always very helpful; trying to get as close as possible to the views that the disciples in Acts had is essential in understanding the Gospel . Jesus taught a/the "Gospel" that simply isn’t the same as was taught by John Calvin. Prior to John Calvin, the Once Saved Always Saved doctrine was very scarce – so within the first 1500 years of Christianity there was a holy reverence that one could lose salvation, thus it must be "worked out with fear and trembling" as Paul suggests. You ask the typical "Chrisitan" today if their a "Calvinist" and the answer is always NO. But that’s not the case, the "Once Saved Always Saved" is a Calvinistic view, not that which was taught by Jesus Christ.

A quote from "Irenaeus" seems to be appropriate here, wrote during the 2nd century: ""And to as many as continue in their love towards God, does He grant communion with Him. But communion with God is life and light, and the enjoyment of all the benefits which He has in store. But on as many as, according to their own choice, depart from God. He inflicts that separation from Himself which they have chosen of their own accord."

Augustine in the 5th century believed in predestination, yet within that he said some have ‘the gift of perseverance’ and others do not – so some even who were predestined could fall away.

Martin Luther: Martin Luther wrote, in his Commentary on 2 Peter 2:22: "Through baptism these people entered into a pure life of faith and love. Now they fall away into unbelief.

Martin Luther’s commentary on Galatians, 5:4 he wrote: "Verse 4, "Ye are fallen from grace" means you are no longer in the kingdom or condition of grace. When a person on board ship falls into the sea and is drowned it makes no difference from which end or side of the ship he falls into the water. Those who fall from grace perish no matter how they go about it. … The words, "Ye are fallen from grace," must not be taken lightly. They are important. To fall from grace means to lose the atonement, the forgiveness of sins, the righteousness, liberty, and life which Jesus has merited for us by His death and resurrection. To lose the grace of God means to gain the wrath and judgment of God, death, the bondage of the devil, and everlasting condemnation."

Consider the following: Matt 24:9-13: "Then they will deliver you to tribulation, and will kill you, and you will be hated by all nations on account of My name. And at that time many will fall away and will deliver up one another and hate one another. And many false prophets will arise, and will mislead many. And because lawlessness is increased, most people’s love (agape) will grow cold. But the one who endures to the end, he shall be saved." Read it again, what did it just say: the one who endures to the end. The end is not yet here, but its close.

During a recent study on Revelation, something else was made clear: "Rev 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book." Consider the following: if a name was removed from the Book of Life, would this not be proof that it was in there at some point. The is a Serious Warning.

C. Does my sin matter now that I'm saved

1 Corinthians 9:27 (King James Version) 27But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.

Note: if Paul was worried that he could be a "castaway" (meaning, he would not enter Heaven) how easily could it be for myself to slip away from Christ? How many "preachers" are caught up is sexual sin, in cash schemes, in foolishness that damages both the witness of the clergy and the Universal Church (Bride of Christ)?

Luke 15
13 And not many days after the younger son gathered all together, and took his journey into a far country, and there wasted his substance with riotous living.
14 And when he had spent all, there arose a mighty famine in that land; and he began to be in want.
15 And he went and joined himself to a citizen of that country; and he sent him into his fields to feed swine.
16 And he would fain have filled his belly with the husks that the swine did eat: and no man gave unto him.
17 And when he came to himself, he said, How many hired servants of my father's have bread enough and to spare, and I perish with hunger!
18 I will arise and go to my father, and will say unto him, Father, I have sinned against heaven, and before thee,
19 And am no more worthy to be called thy son: make me as one of thy hired servants.
20 And he arose, and came to his father. But when he was yet a great way off, his father saw him, and had compassion, and ran, and fell on his neck, and kissed him.
21 And the son said unto him, Father, I have sinned against heaven, and in thy sight, and am no more worthy to be called thy son.
22 But the father said to his servants, Bring forth the best robe, and put it on him; and put a ring on his hand, and shoes on his feet:
23 And bring hither the fatted calf, and kill it; and let us eat, and be merry:
24 For this my son was dead, and is alive again; he was lost, and is found. And they began to be merry.

Note: my son = symbolic to son-ship (saved) then dead (fallen away) and was alive again,
1. my son
2. dead son
3. alive again

Take time to reread, think as the writer was trying to convey the thought. My son, watching as the son went his own way. Notice vs. 24 "this my son was dead" then returned. "For this my son was dead, and is alive again; he was lost, and is found."

John 1:12 Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God— 13children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband's will, but born of God.

Ephesians 2:8 (New International Version)

8For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God—

John 15
1 I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman.
2 Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.
3 Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you.
4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.
5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.

vs. 2 every branch in me this is the saved only, to be called "in me"

What happens to these? read vs. 6

Symbolic of Hell!

Read this with a open heart, all things will come clear to you as you gain understanding of this doctrine.


Romans 11

17 And if some of the branches be broken off , and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert grafted in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;
18 Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.
19 Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be grafted in.
20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:
21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.
22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.

"broken off", from what? The driving force, Jesus Christ, in His mind his purpose, His plan, the lifeline to last forever!
Symbolic of end result being Hell!

D. Can I lose my salvation?
1 Corinthians 3

16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are. Defile by intentional deliberate willful sin!! Consider what God is saying here, "him shall God destroy" Are you in anyway defiling?

2 Timothy 2:12 If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us:
2 Timothy 2:13 If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself.

Matthew 10:32 Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.
Matthew 10:33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.

Luke 12:8 Also I say unto you, Whosoever shall confess me before men, him shall the Son of man also confess before the angels of God:
Luke 12:9 But he that denieth me before men shall be denied before the angels of God.

Revelation 3:5 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.

Exodus 32:33 And the Lord said unto Moses, Whosoever hath sinned against me, him will I blot out of my book.
Psalm 69:28, Deuteronomy 29:20

1 Corinthians 9
27 But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.

Note: one of the best examples, the preacher acknowledging that he must keep himself under authority of God, submission of God and conviction not end up as a castaway.

1 Corinthians 10
1 Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea;
2 And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;
3 And did all eat the same spiritual meat;
4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.
5 But with many of them God was not well pleased: for they were overthrown in the wilderness.
6 Now these things were our examples, to the intent we should not lust after evil things, as they also lusted.
7 Neither be ye idolaters, as were some of them; as it is written, The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play.
8 Neither let us commit fornication, as some of them committed, and fell in one day three and twenty thousand.
9 Neither let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed of serpents.
10 Neither murmur ye, as some of them also murmured, and were destroyed of the destroyer.
11 Now all these things happened unto them for examples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.
12 Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.

Note: vs. 5 overthrown in the wilderness

Understand you are subject to be overthrown in the wilderness. Stay in prayer, stay in bible study and stay close to God.

Now reread vs. 12 consider it "take heed lest he fall".

1 Corinthians 11

31 For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged.
32 But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world.

1 Corinthians 15
1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.

Why would Paul have refereed to these as believers?
Why did Paul say: unless ye have believed in vain.
His warning keep in memory?
Don't backslide!

Galatians 5
4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace. 7 Ye did run well; who did hinder you that ye should not obey the truth?

Philippians 2
12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.
13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.

This is a warning!! Is the cause of Christ a consideration in your life? If so there should be some evidence of this. Have you fallen from the Grace that God has given you?

Colossians 1
22 In the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight:
23 If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;

1 Thessalonians 3
5 For this cause, when I could no longer forbear, I sent to know your faith, lest by some means the tempter have tempted you, and our labour be in vain.
8 For now we live, if ye stand fast in the Lord.

Note: The tempter "devil" has been sucessful in making your labor in vain. If the preachers labor is in vain to you where is that leaving you? Food for thought only.

2 Thessalonians 2
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
Another warning , falling away, you don't want to be a part of that!

Before you write to tell me that we are saved by Grace and not by works you should know that I agree with you (however, in James 2:14-26 it says that faith without deeds is useless).

Before you write to say that God does not take back a gift He has so freely offered you should know that I agree with you (however, I believe that God allows us to give back that gift or to depart from it).

Before you write to say that we are all sinners and will therefore continue to sin throughout our lives you should know that I agree with you (but it is the attitude we have towards our sinning – what is really in our hearts – that is more important).

by Pastor Rodney Luffman

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